Engaging the Next 10%
TLT Group Online Summer Symposium 2010 (3rd Annual)
Pre-Session  - Intro, Planning Open to All
2-3pm EDT Friday July 23, 2010
Frugal Innovations for Student Engagement 

If you have trouble with audio via the Internet during this session, with luck you can participate via telephone.
Telephone 1-605-715-4900  then enter code:  
Slides "published version"  <http://bit.ly/TLTG-Sym2010-0>

Purpose of Pre-Session  
Exchange ideas, get oriented, prepare for 3rd Annual Online Symposium;  
Central question:   How/when will we share symposium results with other colleagues?  
"Walk the Walk": Demonstrate some of the ideas, resources we identify or develop DURING this symposium!


(15 Mins) Welcome, brief intros, background
Purpose of Symposium - Engaging the 2nd 10%
Summary of TLT Group's work on "Frugal Innovations for Student Engagement" (FISE) & 2009 Online Symposium
(Workshops, Nanovation, Bookmarks, Interviews)
FISE Resources already available - intro
<Please take a look at some of the nanovation paper bookmark templates!>

(20 Mins) Successes & Challenges (Ist look - more later in August?)
Sheri Stahler Temple U. - New Temple University Mentor Model Application Form
Saundra McGuire LSU Baton Rouge - Applying ideas from metacognition to helping faculty help students learn more effectively
Jane Harris UNCG - Faculty Cracker Barrels and 1-1 Conversations
Diane Hagni Mo. S&T - How can we demonstrate the impact of engaging the 2nd 10% of the faculty in course improvements - so that supportive resources will be continued? [How do we know that course improvements made by the 1st 10% are worth the effort?]
Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group - Interview follow-up as "Action Research"?

(10 Mins) What do you want? What can you offer?
From/to this symposium?  Who else should you/we invite?  
(2 Mins) How your colleagues can participate in the "real" Symposium sessions
August 2, 9, 16 2-3pm EDT - Sally Gilbert

(13 Mins) Next Steps
Who will help bake this bread?  
Who can help prepare for the Symposium sessions and related activities?  
How/when will we share symposium results with other colleagues?

Last items from Text Chat:

Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:21) How can we enable and encourage likely symposium paritcipants to invite each 1 otgher colleague to aprticipate who is NOT ins the 1st 10%;  and how do we engage those 2nd 10% folks in helping to explain how to reach them and what they need to share with collegaues too.  as
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:22) Beyond just inviting the next 5%....
John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:22) learn how to share as you learn what/things to share
Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:22) Deal directly, overtly with such colleagues about BOTH the imporvement(s) in T/L  AND helping us figure out how better to support this kind of sharing!
John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:23) ur welcome    
John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:23) glad I lurked

Entire Text Chat
e details 3:24 PM (2 minutes ago)
 irene knokh: (7/23/2010 14:14) it is
 irene knokh: (14:14) yes
 Ann Giralico Pearlman 2: (14:14) I have a double voice comng through. Will go out and sign back in
 Ann Giralico Pearlman: (14:15) audio fine
 irene knokh: (14:15) Ann, that may help. I had to do this on occassion
 Sheri Stahler & Pamela Barnett: (14:17) Pamela Barnett & Sheri Stahler  (Temple) are signed in as guests
 Ann Giralico Pearlman: (14:18) sound is good
 irene knokh: (14:22) excellent points
 irene knokh: (14:24) The approaches suggested are useful  in working with SMEs whether educators or faculty
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:26) ye
 irene knokh: (14:26) yes, it's now ok
 David McCurry, TLT Group: (14:26) Yes
 Ann Giralico Pearlman: (14:26) yes
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:27) Saundra -  LSU & other insts;  sharing ideas about metacognition - helping students learn how to learn better
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:27) Saundra - students can be taught to notice and understand their own thinking and to control their thinking
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:27) Saundra - recommends fac teach Blooms tax to their students!
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:28) Saundra - teaching students how to read helps!
 irene knokh: (14:28) Ipads don't do much if students cannot read
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (14:28) It is nice that there is a revision of Bloom's that can help faculty reflect on and think more deeply about Blooms and how to take students to even deeper levels of learning.
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:28) "reading" - strategy to preview
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:29) Will have "bookmark" about advising students to "preview" instead of read before a class - works better to get students to prep for class
 irene knokh: (14:29) yes, excellent...strategies in use for any class
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:29) [I'm a little skeptical about how many faculty actulaly know about Blooms taxonomy!
 irene knokh: (14:30) and make students  accountable for their learning
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (14:31) Bloom’s Taxonomy (1956) -> Anderson & Krathwohl (2001); makes you think about creation.
 irene knokh: (14:31) Exactly
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (14:31) Many of my faculty say that students should already know how to do this - that high schools should have taught them. But, they are here and we have to help the students.
 irene knokh: (14:32) Students need to know from the start that they share the responsibility for learning
 irene knokh: (14:32) They need to know how to use the resources
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (14:32) Yes and weaker students gain more from this kind of support.
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:32) EXACTLY, Jame! And, yes, we have to let students know HOW to assume responsibility for their own learning.  In high school they have no responsibility.
 Irina Ivliyeva: (14:33) Amen!
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (14:33) And sometimes I wonder whether this is the crux of the problem - disempowerment in high school.
 Jim Therrell: (14:34) In this vein, has anyone worked with Self-Regulated Learning
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:36) Diane - How measure additional 10% to influence strategic planning, budgeting, etc
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:37) Diane - need to know who we need to convince, when, why?   quantiative or qualitivative data?  how many fauclty must be influenced?
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:37) disempowerment is a really interesting idea to me.  It certainly has happened with students of color, but Jane is suggesting something broader which I suspect comes hand in hand with reductionistic assessments and "teaching to the tests"
 irene knokh: (14:38) sound ok
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:38) Jane - works with 5 depts  approx 75 fac - "less vulnerabble" because not central!
 Irene Knokh: (14:39) bravo :-0
 Jim Therrell: (14:39) There's a specific SRL content (but in general, too).
 Irene Knokh: (14:39) :-)
 Irene Knokh: (14:39) 1:1 is a great approach
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:39) Jane - does a lot of 1-1 consultations
 Jim Therrell: (14:40) Excelent! Thank fyou!
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:40) We use the concepts of self-regulated learning, but have no formal program.  Our website is www.cas.lsu.edu if you want more information.
 Irene Knokh: (14:41) it certainly does--one way to get them to come in:-0
 Irene Knokh: (14:41) :-)
 Douglas Eder: (14:41) My academic home is biology. An origin of bio study was to learn to identify plants because they provided food, medicines, and buillding materials. Today, the study of botany has very little of this connection. So students ask, "Why study botany?" What do you think of the notion that part of empowering and engaging students is hooking them with something that _they_ see as relevant?
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) Jane - cracker barrel VERY grass roots;  constructive "co-opting"!
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1f713 is the URL for the Google Moderator page for the extermission
 Irene Knokh: (14:42) using the adult learning approach-what's in it for me
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) Yeah Doug! right on
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) Jane - already reaching 2nd 10%!
 Sheri Stahler & Pamela Barnett: (14:42) We are here!
 Douglas Eder: (14:42) Yes, WIIFM...not a radio station but "What's in it for me?"
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:42) Hooray, Sheri/Pam!
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:43) I think WIIFM is different from making thoughtful hooks
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:43) PERFECT plan, Douglas.  That's the only way to get some of them to buy in to the notion of putting effort into a course.
 Irene Knokh: (14:43) excellent Jane!!! and Googlewave use
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:44) http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1f713
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (14:44) Doug - Relevance and application are very critical hooks for student engagement.  There are lots of ways to approach this, but it is/has been an important part of education (esp. at the adult level).
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (14:45) I agree with Doug. I encourage faculty to continuallyt tell students why they are being asked to do what has been assigned.
 Irene Knokh: (14:45) Absolutely. I work mostly with adult learners but find that the principles apply to all learners
 Irene Knokh: (14:45) Jane and Doug-great point
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (14:45) Symposium: Mondays August 2, 9 & 16
 Irene Knokh: (14:45) yes
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:46) http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1f713
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:47) Google Moderator - allows creatiopn of online "polls" for free .  People can enter questions or comments AND can vote on teh entries that have already been made - to indicate priority - so that we would pay more attention to items getting more votes
 Irene Knokh: (14:48) In the spirit of learning and collaborating :-)
 barbara millis: (14:49) I invite faculty to contribute ideas for a Tuesday Teaching Tip.
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:49) Hmmm.  It wasys I need a google password.  Is that true>
 Irene Knokh: (14:49) anything google requires a google acc
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:50) I think having at least one faculty member to talk about a nanovation that works well would be great
 Ray Purdom: (14:50) I can't fine the poll
 Ray Purdom: (14:51) find
 Irene Knokh: (14:51) http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=1f713&t=1f713.40&f=1f713.6e518
 Irene Knokh: (14:51) that's the link
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (14:51) i think Diane's question is really important and I'd like ot hear some thoughts on it
 Irene Knokh: (14:51) you do have to get in with your google acc
 Irene Knokh: (14:51) try it out. I can put in the suggestions for the group for now
 Ray Purdom: (14:51) Oh, it's a suggestion not a poll
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (14:51) yes
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:51) I'd like to talk more about HOW to share with colleagues.  I think some faculty are reluctant to share because they don't know how their offer of help will be received.
 Irene Knokh: (14:53) I see that the comments are s howing up
 Irene Knokh: (14:53) Saundra, this is excellent. Please talk about this more.
 Irene Knokh: (14:53) the HOW
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (14:53) I think that faculty underestimate the innovations they undertake.
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (14:54) They think that it's nothing...
 Irene Knokh: (14:54) 7 people have submitted 10 suggestions and cast 22 votesbut what do you think?
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:54) Rebecca -  "Nano Interaction"  "Nano Followup"
 Irene Knokh: (14:55) also the dialogue between staff and faculty if they work together on a project and share strategies for learning/teaching students
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:55) Because teaching is not the primary interest of most faculty (research and publications and getting grants take priority!).  And sometimes faculty members (expecially pre-tenure) are seen as not concentrating on the real issues if they are concerned about teaching.
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (14:55) Saundra & all - Creating opportunities for faculty to share (Brown Bags, Homegrown Innovation showcases, Cracker Barrels...) but also, for actual workshops, creating a support structure for Faculty Facilitators (a Mentoring program, rather like a training of trainers (ToT) strategy) is one thought.
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:56) I was very pleased with today's session.
 Irina Ivliyeva: (14:57) Great session today, thank you! Would be great to hear about practicle examples in the classroom.
 Irene Knokh: (14:57) BOnnie, yes, lunch and learn, or, in our case virtual lunch and learn sessions
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:57) I think that asking faculty to write a short blurb on what they did and how it worked would interest other faculty.
 Jim Therrell: (14:57) Something like a Blackboard shell might help people to network, share resources or links, blog, discuss, etc.
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:58) http://tltgroup.roundtablelive.org
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:58) Registration and more info links available on our home page www.tltgoup.org
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:58) Write sallygilbert@tltgroup.org
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (14:58) Lost sound
 Douglas Eder: (14:58) Presidents, provosts, and deans change frequently. If _one_ of these titled individuals is replaced by someone who says, "If you don't publish, you'll perish," then aren't faculty teaching improvements relegated to low priority? I ask this question because it just happened at a Big Ten university and was sadly and poignantly lamented.
 Irene Knokh: (14:58) friday irregulars is also a great session
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (14:58) thoughts about how TLG can help facilitate collegial sharing; specifically effecive folow-ups - asycnh, interactive, concrete,please write to me: kurtz@ttgroup.org
 Douglas Eder: (14:59) Sound disappeared...silence....
 Douglas Eder: (14:59) Yes.
 Irene Knokh: (14:59) sound is fine ...just a little shaky
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (14:59) Small case studies Saundra - they can live on a website or be the focus of a face to face event.
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (14:59) "FridayLive" - weekly 2pm Eastern Time - free to everyone/anyone
 Irene Knokh: (15:00) Friday irregulars
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:00) http://tltgroup.roundtablelive.org
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:00) Yes.  And I've heard that senior faculty tell junior facuty that poor teaching won't get them fired, but no presnetation or funding WILL get the fired!
 Sheri Stahler & Pamela Barnett: (15:00) we're available and using the phone
 barbara millis: (15:01) Bye, Folks!
 Douglas Eder: (15:01) Sandra---noted. Many institutions have similar attitudes.
 Irene Knokh: (15:01) the students also often think that faculty is out to publish, not teach...so there is this division, supposedly, cc colleges=teach,  big schools-research, and teaching is something "juniors" do
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:01) OOPS!  I meant no research or funding will get them fired.
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:02) Shari = has doc to share - call for applications Temple U  - will come back Aug 2!
 Douglas Eder: (15:03) Then if this is so, perhaps the approach should be on the reward system itself and that all these other approaches are merely peripheral. I worry about this.
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:03) Temple U - first to have TLT Roundtable;  first to have mentoring program that REQUIRES applicants to identify 3 colleagues who will be assisted by the applicant as a consequnece of the grant
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:03) Pam Barnett-  TLTR working with gorup of mentors!  now have 11 mentors
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:04) ANOTHER SUGGESTION:  Get faculty to engage and collaborate with the student learning center on campus
 Irene Knokh: (15:04) CRLT (center for learning and teaching-UM) works with faculty
 Irene Knokh: (15:04) here at UM
 Irene Knokh: (15:04) Saundra, yes!!! :-)
 Irene Knokh: (15:04) and collaborate with the rest of the U (so for us, hospital where a lot of teaching occurs)
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:04) LEARN MORE ABOUT TEMPLE U PROGRAM AUG 2 2PM edt
 Irene Knokh: (15:05) Excellent points
 Irene Knokh: (15:08) http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=1f713&t=1f713.40&f=1f713.6e518
 Irene Knokh: (15:09) great...raisins and cinnamon! LOL
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:09) How do you define "help"?
 Sally Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:10) We'd like to offer Individual Memberships to helpers.
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:10) the sympsium
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:10) OK. Count me in.
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (15:10) We have used the ideas generated during the Symposium to help guide our TLTG Programs (Online Institutes & especially Friday Live!) throughout the coming year.
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (15:11) I have really enjoyed hearing from people today and would like to hear more!
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (15:12) What about blog entries?
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (15:12) With an RSS?
 Irene Knokh: (15:12) or wiki
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:12) Jane:   ISSUE IS LACK OF TIME
 Bonnie Mullinix, TLT Group: (15:13) Thanks for a great session.  I have to step away.  See everyone soon.
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (15:13) how about inviting one colleague to com to the syposium with you? :-)
 Irene Knokh: (15:13) yes, that's perpetual to all of us....that's the major stumble block
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:13) Jane-  people don't read email
 Irene Knokh: (15:13) Jane, there are timess they don't read websites either :-)
 Irina Ivliyeva: (15:13) Looking forward to more of this in August! I will forward this info to our department. Thank you for this great opportunity!
 Irene Knokh: (15:13) info overload
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:14) JANE - DIVERSE WAYS OF PLANTING SEEDS!
 Irene Knokh: (15:14) sustainable
 Irene Knokh: (15:14) It's not whether you are late or earlier-it's  how you adopt :-)
 Irene Knokh: (15:14) Thank you for a great session!
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (15:14) You are kind Irene.
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (15:15) wonderful! just like Miss Rumphius
 Irene Knokh: (15:15) I work with nuse educators...so there are the same issues
 Ann Giralico Pearlman: (15:15) Thank you.
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (15:15) no sound or me
 Saundra McGuire, LSU: (15:15) THANKS!  Off to another meeting...
 David McCurry, TLT Group: (15:15) That would explain iit.
 Irene Knokh: (15:16) that's a start
 Jane Harris, UNC-Greensboro: (15:16) Thanks all
 Irene Knokh: (15:16) Thanks everyone
 Carol Bradley - SCCNC: (15:16) Thank you
 David McCurry, TLT Group: (15:16) Thank you everyone. If you have not registered for the Symposium, please visit www.TLTGroup.org
 Rebecca Kurtz, TLT Group: (15:16) thanks everyone for being with us today!
 Irene Knokh: (15:17) and don't forget suggestions:http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=1f713&t=1f713.40&f=1f713.6e518
 Irene Knokh: (15:17) Thanks
 nikki: (15:17) :-)  thanks
 John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:17) thank you         sorry for being late    bye!
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:21) How can we enable and encourage likely symposium paritcipants to invite each 1 otgher colleague to aprticipate who is NOT ins the 1st 10%;  and how do we engage those 2nd 10% folks in helping to explain how to reach them and what they need to share with collegaues too.  as
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:22) Beyond just inviting the next 5%....
 John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:22) learn how to share as you learn what/things to share
 Steve Gilbert, TLT Group: (15:22) Deal directly, overtly with such colleagues about BOTH the imporvement(s) in T/L  AND helping us figure out how better to support this kind of sharing!
 John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:23) ur welcome
 John Munro, Univ of Virgin Island: (15:23) glad I lurked

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